I think we're in agreement here, so I'll make my reply short :D
I'd modify your last statement. I think there are excellent reasons - conscious, quantifiable, on screen, in-script reasons to find Keller lacking, and you and gnine have done an excellent job of feeling those out. But I do think that for many people - not all - there's also a subconscious element that springs from the social conditioning I outlined in my first 'new thinky' comment. I think we do ourselves a disservice to not also see the societal trends involved - which, to be clear, I totally think you two do see them. My frustration with the Keller conversation at large comes not from any of the stuff we've talked about here, but from a defensiveness and heels-dug-in reaction that refuses to consider the bigger issues also at play, or to acknowledge that there are emotions involved that spring from multiple sources, none of which make the argument (in many cases) a very rational one.
Anyway. My squee is not harshed! I'll continue to like Keller, regardless, and also to write her a better end for herself than TPTB can imagine - which, frankly, isn't that hard :D And thank you for the very interesting back and forth!
Re: new thoughts, part two
I'd modify your last statement. I think there are excellent reasons - conscious, quantifiable, on screen, in-script reasons to find Keller lacking, and you and gnine have done an excellent job of feeling those out. But I do think that for many people - not all - there's also a subconscious element that springs from the social conditioning I outlined in my first 'new thinky' comment. I think we do ourselves a disservice to not also see the societal trends involved - which, to be clear, I totally think you two do see them. My frustration with the Keller conversation at large comes not from any of the stuff we've talked about here, but from a defensiveness and heels-dug-in reaction that refuses to consider the bigger issues also at play, or to acknowledge that there are emotions involved that spring from multiple sources, none of which make the argument (in many cases) a very rational one.
Anyway. My squee is not harshed! I'll continue to like Keller, regardless, and also to write her a better end for herself than TPTB can imagine - which, frankly, isn't that hard :D And thank you for the very interesting back and forth!